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Building My First PC - a lot of advice needed!


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iammykyl

Another quality post here from you -

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What is your opinion please on the thermal paste issue 51 to 54 please.


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I would not run the computer without cleaning and reinstalling the heatsink and fan, I think too risky, could overheat straight away or 1 week/10 weeks.
That said, being so close to completion and Vixie pulling hair out, I would do a 20 second test and if OK, set the BIOS, then do the clean up.

Hi Vixie, Nearly there.
After reading this post, please let us know if you want to proceed with the installation of software.

Goood you found the cooler pin not properly engaged and the PCI-E cable sorted.


Have you connected the front case header wires for buttons and light indicators? and matched up the + pins correctly? (you will have 3 or 4 very little 2 pin plugs) > System Panel Header This header accommodates several system front panel (9-pin PANEL1) (see p.13, No. 20) Then read page 38.

Locate the Dr debug display, Page 13 #21. Any visual error codes will be displayed here and will give more information than the speaker beep codes. List of codes start on page 42.

I think towards the end of your selection of parts, You chose this GPU? > http://us.msi.com/pr...l#/?div=Feature Only update your GPU drivers from this site. I think there is a live update in the utilities.

Leave the side of the case off, so can see fans, Dr Debug.
Connect you keyboard and mouse.
Connect your monitor to the add on video card, not the one on the Mobo.
Connect the PSU. Do Not switch on until my colleagues have done their final check..

Watch the video,. Post any questions.

First boot, installing window, installing drivers, > http://www.youtube.c...e&v=pG7vOvFfMFA Now go to your Mobo manual and read from

The first time you power on. all the fans should run, lights on the case should operate. Let the computer run for about 20 seconds, {as in the video) Then press and hold the power on button until the computer stops. (about 4 to 6 seconds
Press the power on button again and press and hold down the Delete key on the keyboard. Your computer will boot into the BIOS main screen.
set the time and date, and if present, set the region and language. Please do not alter any other setting unless directed to do so.
Press F10. A screen will open, "save changes and exit" select yes.

Edited by iammykyl, 11 September 2012 - 12:10 AM.

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Have you connected the front case header wires for buttons and light indicators? and matched up the + pins correctly? (you will have 3 or 4 very little 2 pin plugs) > System Panel Header This header accommodates several system front panel (9-pin PANEL1) (see p.13, No. 20) Then read page 38.

- thats the picture I included I believe?? The 2pin plugs for power, restart, and LED? I'm still not sure if they should be horizontal or vertical...

i see the list of codes in the manual and where the debug is located

yes thats the GPU i bought

I will buy some artic-clean stuff now so that I will be able to clean it off and retry as soon as it gets delivered.. though thats... days...away... :(!!

I'm ready to go as soon as i get the ok
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Only one point I see apart from what has been mentioned.

It HAS actually been covered - but from experience I can tell you that the main 24 pin power connector equires usually quite some force to engage the securing clip
As it is near the edge of the motherboard, you must support the board on that edge when engaging it., and ensuring the clip is located.
You will be able to satisfy yourself usually - by a close visual inspection - that the clip on the 24 pin from the power supply is over the raised edge of the motherboard connection

Of course a sure sign that it is not, is if the connection can be unmade without using the release clip.

I recommend the close visual inspection first

I AGREE with my colleague iammykyl about the thermal compound and as you know I have always been of that opinion - with the caveat that ONLY YOU CAN DECIDE. Indeed my good colleague phillpower2 has said the same.

Re the front - eg from the case - system panel header mentioned by you and also by my colleague
As he said we can only refer you to the manual

Does this help - although it is ONLY what is in the manual
header.jpg


If you tell us the title on the wires from the case front panel, if they are different to what is shown - we will tell you where they go
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Started this earlier, had to pop out, so I will read the latest posts, and add at the end.

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Answers to Post #75

10. Remove the sticky label.
11. OK. If you do get an eSATA external hard drive encloser, for backups, you will need it connected.
16. You can use this button when the case is open, to reset the computer, instead of using the one on the case.
18. You can use this button when the case is open,start the computer, shut down by holding in for 4 to 6 seconds, same as case button.
20. NO incorrect.

Edit - just looking at the picture makes me wonder if I should have put the power and reset cables in horizontally rather than vertically...?


Yes, correct. This is not your Mobo, but shows the correct orientation. > http://www.hardwares....php?image=603.

20.

Again I assumed the arrow means positive, all cables have a coloured wire on the side of the arrow and a grey wire.


yes, correct.


21. This is the Dr Defug to display numbered codes. Please check that the 88 is not a sticker, as you sometimes get on digital displays.?

The other 2 case fans are both connected to the PSU through the molex(x3)floppy cable.

Yes, correct, but, those 2 Rosewill fan come with a 12v Molex input, (unlike the rear fan with a 3 pin fan plug) this means the fan is not variable controlled, but will run at full bore, noisy and unnecessary. You can run the computer as is, or buy two 4 pin Molex to 3 pin fan adapters. or a front panel fan controler.

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I think the above covers the front header pins?

OK the outstanding points, and I will be happy for a test, but do not (I am with Macboatmaster here) recommend going to a full install of windows.
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23.50.
Shutting down, take the dog for a pee, going to bed.

Good luck Vixie.
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Stickers all off, pins changed to horizontal,24pin power seems to be secure in place, I will bare the fan thing in mind for the future, got some cleaning stuff coming for the thermal paste but I guess for now its time to do a 20 second test run?

Edited by Vixie, 11 September 2012 - 06:59 PM.

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Thanks for the Update.

Yes, run the 20 second test.
Please reply with results.
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I want to cry right now =/ nothing at all happens
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It was plugged in, I tried the power supply switch both ways to make sure it wasnt the wrong way, and I've checked the cables to the mobo are secure, tried the case power button as well as the mobo one... :/
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I probably failed to ground myself properly or something stupid :( I'll probably end up having to return everything, can I even do that... ? :(
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Don"t panic.
Did any fans or lights come on?
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Nothing at all
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Have you switched on at the wall socket?
If yes, >
Switch of the PSU, unplug from the wall socket and try another appliance.
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that wall socket works fine =s I use it for my laptop regularly but ok
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If you are using a power strip, it may have been overloaded or faulty.
Does the monitor come on, should put up a signal like, No Input.?
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