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Building My First PC - a lot of advice needed!


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that wall socket works fine =s I use it for my laptop regularly but ok
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Still nothing :(
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The monitor has the orange stand by light and doesnt change at all
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Power Strip?? the wall socket doesn't have an on/off switch btw
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If you are using a power strip, it may have been overloaded or faulty.
Does the monitor come on, should put up a signal like, No Input.?

Missed this one.
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Posts 93 and 94 :)
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OK, sorry.

Here in Australia, a power strip si an extention lead with 2 + outlets and a small overload button.

If power is reaching the PSU, the fan should start.

You are getting power to the monitor, so,
Turn it of, > unplug from the wall socket, > unplug from the Monitor.
Do the same with the PSU, > hook up the PSU using the Monitor power cable.
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Still nothing at all
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It looks to me as though you have been very unfortunate, and the PSU is DOA.

I have a dental appointment at 2.00 PM, so will have to leave.
There is one more test we can do, but requires unplugging all the cables from the PSU.
It is very, very unlikely that you have damaged parts of the computer through static discharge..
Catch you later.
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:/ I guess the likelyhood right now means returning the psu then, and ok, I have to go into work all day tomorrow and wont be on until evening my time. Argh :(

Edited by Vixie, 11 September 2012 - 09:35 PM.

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Starting to get a little sick with panic, like what if the wrist strap didnt work properly or i placed it wrong and therefore everything is damaged, and soon it will be approaching the 30day warranty limit, would there be time to recieve the replacement psu and test everything and still be within the replacement limit? Would they even accept replacing too many parts, and I don't even know what bits came with what or where the reciepts are... and does the microcenter have a replacement option?

Edited by Vixie, 12 September 2012 - 02:23 AM.

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OK. Back again, 2 fillings and a clean, $400.90.

Two tests I can think of, before retuning the PSU.

1. Switch of the PSU, disconnect from the wall socket. > Completely disconnect and remove the two cables to the video card and PSU. > Disconnect the monitor, > remove the video card and place back in the anti static bag.(There is a small locking tab at the right hand side of the PCI-E slot, underneath the card, this one, I think, is slid to the right while lifting out the card.) see image. > reconnect to wall plug, > switch on the PSU, > Power on the computer?. If fans fail to start.

Switch off, discount from wall, > Disconnect all power leads from the PSU except the 24v and 12v to the Motherboard, > Disconnect all other cables to the Motherboard except the CPU fan plug.


The only things now connected to the Motherboard should be, RAM, system speaker, two power cables and the CPU fan plug. Check that there are no loose wires that could get caught in the CPU or PSU fans.

Connect to wall plug, > switch on the PSU, > power on the computer. Any fans? Any beeps?

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Starting to get a little sick with panic,


Slow down, take a couple of deep breaths. I am pretty sure static has not damaged the parts. Also pretty sure it is a dead PSU. Perform the tests and lets see the results.





Edited by iammykyl, 12 September 2012 - 02:49 AM.

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I think, dependng on the results of the test recommended by my colleague that there are two STRONG possibilities
1. The CPU
2. The wiring for the power button

If the CPU is not seated properly it will not power on
Consult your motherboard manual and the leaftlet that came with the CPU
Are you sure it is aligned - the CPU - as shown, if it was the CPU would locate easily in its sockets, when you released the locking catch and lifted the carrier
It MUST be orientated as shown in your manual
That is page 17 and 18

The other point is the system front panel header, but I do think that has been covered, but if you have the wiring wrong it will not boot
Are you sure the wiring for the PWRBTN + is third from the left top row of header. You mentioned that the wires had an arrow mark they MUST have as well some indication of which is which besides that - there must be PWR + on one or something to indicate that and there must be RST - reset or again something similar on another.

The ONLY other possibility besides a faulty component is ARE you sure you have not connected a power IN from the PSU in otherwords a supply to a power OUT from the motherboard - fan headers are the favourite eg. A motherboard header supplies power to a case fan but you connect, from the PSU a power IN such as may be used to power a floppy - I have seen it done before. NOT likely with your modular power supply -
SO referrng to your post 66

Ok, found a different wire from the PSU that leads to the fan, it has 3 fan sized ones on then one (what im guessing is for the floppy if i had one) - which seems right with the manual and they fit :D

WHERE have you connected the FAN SIZED ones from the PSU

If that fails to resolve it MY ADVICE is infortunately GIVE UP - surrender - you have tried your best - you will have, silly as it seems now to say - learnt from the experience.
IF POSSIBLE take it to someone who will show you where you have done wrong and then you will know if you ever decide to try and build again.

If that is not possible - with your brother or your fathers colleague at work I think you mentioned, then it seems to me it is a computer repair specialist.

I say that because the specialist or a knowlegable person should be able to ascertain what is wrong, quickly - rather than the time it going to take you, and as you say the time element is important., in declaring a component defective on delivery and its return.
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omgvomogmoggmomgomog... stuff came on when i turned the power on.. the cpu fan.. the case rear fan. the debug thing lit up.... (using the case power button) while the psu was connected just to the mobo (the second situation iammykyl described)
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That is good news and I am pleased for you.
You should be proud of yourself even with the hiccup

So now you know that it is of course, something that you have disconnected in the process recommended by my colleague


He is better at me than this aspect of troubleshooting and I will leave it to him, as that I think will be in your best interests, as we must now re-connect the disconnected items one at a time

Again you have done well.

Still wait for my colleague please but check that the MSI card power
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was connected correctly at the card, the clip on the connector locates to the upper edge of the connections shown on the image. IF you have removed the MSI card the check will be easy.
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